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What if Captian keyes lived?

What if Captian keyes lived?

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I've read almost all of the Halo books and I want to know what you guys think would've happened if Cpt. keyes had lived through Halo: 1.

I think that the war from there would've gone a whole lot differently, as some of you may know Many of the Spartans, Including John 117 Himself thought very highly of Keyes as a Strategist and Tactician. Now If you've read The fall of reach, you know that he Invented the Keyes loop which was one of the most impressive moves in a ship-to-ship battle I've ever seen. Now all things considered, I think that Keyes would've take a large part in the rest of the storyline, I also think that more than a few battles might have gone better for the UNSC, And I'm not just blindly assuming, In the Fall of Reach Keyes and cortana took out the covenant flagship at reach and saved a few ships. I'm sorry for rambling on, I've gone a little past the point, But overall I think the war would've been better for the humans. So what do you huys think?

Thread Posted on 06/03/2014 02:59

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An interesting question. I am sure certain areas of the war would of been a lot more successful, and there certainly wouldn't of been as many casualties in the grand scheme of things. Including his daughter as that situation would play out entirely differently! 

Posted on 06/03/2014 06:53

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Another question would be: How did he survive?

Did others survive along with him, how would those others have impacted the story?

Would Chief have even found the pelican that had Sgt. Johnson and others aboard or would Keyes be on that pelican too?

Because as it stands, he would have to have been infected by the Flood or killed by something no matter whether he went into that facility or stayed at Alpha Base anyways. In fact, if Keyes had survived and would have been there to help blow up the Autumn and they might not have made it out on time. Sgt. Johnson and the others would be stuck in a pelican and eventually captured and/or killed by Covenant and Humanity would have never heard of the Halo array. In this case, Cairo Station would have been blown up just like the other orbital defense platforms as Chief wouldn't be there to disarm the bomb and Miranda Keyes and Lord Hood would both be dead, and Earth would have been overrun and glassed.

 Or John would have had to leave Keyes behind, in which case Keyes would die just as well.

So yeah, Keyes being dead is a good thing.

Of course, there's still the option of Keyes not being involved in blowing up The Autumn at all, but then the Ring would be intact and the Covenant would likely activate it, and Keyes along with everyone else will still die.

If Keyes were to be alive at the end of the game regardless of any changes to the plot, for example, another officer had the same codes required to blow up The Autumn and was infected instead, it could be a good thing for Humanity, pretty much all realistic alternatives end in... well, pretty much end.

Posted on 13/03/2014 00:28

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There is one scenario in which none of which you stated would happen. if keyes won the engagement with the covenant. As impossible as it sounds, he did win the battle of Sigma Octanis IV with only a Destroyer. However improbable it may sound, if he had won, things would have gone differently. And you might be thinking "What if the Autumn had sustained so much damage that it wouldn't be able to return through slipspace to Earth", This would be a good thing, and you would know why if you read Halo: First strike.

Posted on 18/03/2014 20:42

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There is one scenario in which none of which you stated would happen. if keyes won the engagement with the covenant. As impossible as it sounds, he did win the battle of Sigma Octanis IV with only a Destroyer. However improbable it may sound, if he had won, things would have gone differently. And you might be thinking "What if the Autumn had sustained so much damage that it wouldn't be able to return through slipspace to Earth", This would be a good thing, and you would know why if you read Halo: First strike.

Posted on 18/03/2014 20:42

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Well, of course there's that scenario as well, but he decided to land on the ring for a reason. The autumn was barely holding together and was severely outnumbered. Sure, he might have taken out one or two ships, maybe 3, but no more than that, before being blown to smithereens. Remember, he "only" took out a destroyer and two frigates and in that battle and the Ascendant Justice fleet was more than double that at 7 ships. No way they'd have made that and they wouldn't all have had time to board and take over Ascendant Justice either as they'd be too busy dieing.

Posted on 18/03/2014 22:16

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... my brain just melted ... i am by no means a halo historian, but what you all have said is amazaing. i wonder though, what would have happened if in halo 1, what if keyes had, say, 3 or 4 more ships with him? what then?

Posted on 27/04/2015 22:07

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Master Chief's mission tasked the Autumn with capturing a covenant ship and commandeering it to the Covenant homeworld, which we later learn is the space station/city High Charity. The Autumn was instructed to act independantly, as it had the entirety of the SPARTAN-II group with it, which could carry out the mission.

Posted on 27/05/2015 15:48